“Men who consume one to two servings of soymilk per day are 70 percent less likely to develop prostate cancer than men who don’t.” – The Food Revolution by John Robbins

As promised, the reference for the above factual statement is:

Jacobsen, B.K., et al., “Does High Soy Milk Intake Reduce Prostate Cancer Incidence?” Cancer Causes, Control 9 (1998): 553-7.

I apologize for responsding two weeks after my initial post. The delay was due to Robbin’s aforementioned book just becoming available at the local library (November 18). Once again, I encourage you to read it as it has had a profound effect on my life (I can only hope the same for others).

Be Well.

The major problem here though is that the majority of the population is riddled with toxins that have made a home in their bodies. When a mother, who most likely would be full of these toxins, becomes impregnated, a process begins whereby all of the accumulated garbage, for lack of a better word, residing in her is transferred to her child. Upon delivery, the child is a product, in part, of that unhealthy nature – not as healthy as many believe because they have been the continuous receiver of disease for a lengthy period of time (up to 9 months). We can now imagine the effects this would have on a child when continuing to supply the disease(s) with different strains; one that resides throughout childhood; into adolescence; and finally reaching a maturation (of sorts) in adulthood. With respect to adulthood, the disease is so advanced that new and stronger composite strains have most likely been produced. Scary.

“I guess I’ve always known this, and that’s why I buy organic. It really is hard to break 23 years of conditioning… milk and cookies still sound good to me.” I completely understand and respect that. Once conditioned, it’s not an easy task to change paths. With education and a calibration of our moral compass, our ways can be altered (for the better).

“You know, maybe that’s why people have created soymilk. They don’t want to drink real milk, but they still want their milk & cookies and cereal.” Interesting. I feel that it’s all part of the process in ‘upgrading’ our conditioning. But conditioning is not necessarily a negative thing. For many people, comfort is found in the many mock animal products. If a safe alternative exists, I see no reason to worry. As we’re both aware of though, ‘safe alternatives’ are few and far between when speaking of many of the commercial soy-based products. I admittedly consume some of the commercial soy products but only as a treat :)

Once again, thank you for your comments dianarn.

I guess I’ve always known this, and that’s why I buy organic. It really is hard to break 23 years of conditioning… milk and cookies still sound good to me. And cheese. :)

I should probably start trying harder to “wean” myself from it. But still no soymilk for me. You know, maybe that’s why people have created soymilk. They don’t want to drink real milk, but they still want their milk & cookies and cereal.

As for Dr. McDougall, his knowledge and ability to relay that knowledge to the lay person are definite strengths of his. A well respected man, to say the least.

Milk is really that bad. I would once again refer anybody to Robert Cohen’s ‘ NotMilk.com’ website for literary support, as one of many references.

You do make some good points, one of them being that the milk sold in most stores is poisonous. As a species, we were never meant to drink cow’s milk. Really think about it. Doesn’t the thought of it completely gross you out? You are drinking a fluid from an animal that was intended for its offspring and its offspring alone. I have a feeling we could argue this to no end, but what it comes down to is yet another example of how human animals exploit non-human animals. This being a website about veganism, you surely expected such a stance (I would hope) :) There is a plethora of unbiased material in circulation that refutes the argument put forth by the dairy industry regarding the consumption of cow’s milk, even if saturated in anthropocentrism.

Just because we’ve been drinking cow’s milk, as a species, for thousands of years doesn’t make it right. I could offer you examples of this thinking but have decided it probably is best to leave it at that as my reasoning lies on a foundation of compassion (ahimsa).

I would like to say that your thoughts on how our society differs from past generations made for an enjoyable read. For the most part, I agree with you, namely “We still eat like we worked in a field 14 hours a day.” This, I believe, is simply a product of general industrialization. The path of least resistance if you will. Fast food restaurants are a prime example of this. You ended your comment by stating, “But you still have to make sure you’re getting all of your vitamins, like B12, and that the food you eat isn’t genetically modified to make its own pesticides.” I really enjoyed that thought.

Thank you once again for your comments, dianarn.

Be Well.

And milk is really not that bad. I’m not talking about the milk being produced today in agro-farms. I’m talking about more or less organic milk, grown on regular farms, from cows that are not constantly pregnant, see the light of day, and are free to roam around. The regular milk you buy in stores is truly poisonous, not just because of the added hormones, but also the antibiotics, which increase resistance in bacteria.

People have been drinking milk for thousands of years. The problems we have now are due to our inactivity. We still eat like we worked in a field 14 hours a day. Being a vegetarian is probably a lot healthier today, mainly because you don’t get as many calories from veggies that you get from meat. But you still have to make sure you’re getting all of your vitamins, like B12, and that the food you eat isn’t genetically modified to make its own pesticides.